Tuesday, January 09, 2007

Where? Say what?

In Lawrence County, Tennessee there's a town called Loretto. OK, that doesn't look hard - sound it out. LOW-ReT-OH (almost like Low-RENT-oh, which would be appropriate). But that's not the way you say it. It's LOW-rett-uh. I know it's a small distinction - but an important one. To locals, anyway.

The British are very proud of their practically unpronounceable place names. The Welsh have that especially locked up, for example - Llanelli - is pronounced as far as I can tell
ccchuchhAN- echhhhchh-LEE. I was once on a train that passed through the tiny town of Llanelli and the whole carriage sounded like it was clearing its throat of a small, but very sticky lurgy. But for all the throat clearing and bizarre pronunciation rules of Wales - at least they seem to follow some rules.

Parts of London near me are Streatham, Balham and Clapham. That's stret-'m, bal-'m and clap-'m. How would you pronounce Loughborough - a town located somewhere in the Midlands.? Low-burr-OH? Lau-bor-uh? A co-worker of mine once heard an American asking a platform attendant where he might catch the train to Luga-buruga (I still maintain that they guy was trying to read from some badly hand written note where the Hs looked like As.) But anyway, it's Luffburow.

There are quite a few other examples of place names which foreigners invariably get wrong causing no end of sneering and jeering from the Brits. Though of course, 9 out of 10 BBC presenters can't say Michigan, Maryland, or Houston properly. And St Louis - is almost always St Louie, but I could forgive anyone for not knowing the right way say Louisville.

But one town looks like it's solved the conundrum of pronouncing place names. Via the Lynnster Zone - the town of Guin, Alabama tells you exactly how to say their town's name on their highway sign.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

remember many of us in Wales speak Welsh and have Welsh placenames which is a completely different language to English so of course its going to be, in some cases very hard to say try this for a place name
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

yes that is a name of a town and a train station
good blog - thanks
Ferg

Lynnster said...

Since I originally posted that about Guin/Gu-win, I have learned something that has made the whole thing even stranger. One of my regular readers in Birmingham, AL knows a girl from Guin, and it turns out that there is a tiny community that actually does spell and call itself Gu-win located between the towns of Guin and Brilliant, Alabama. The actual town of Guin is pronounced "gwin" and then there Gu-win community is pronounced "gu-win". That just totally and completely blew my mind.

She also has told me since that there is also a town in Alabama called Remlap (read it backward) that is adjacent to the town of Palmerdale. Why not Eladremlap is yet another mystery.

My conclusion - people in Alabama are STRANGE. (But then any non-Alabama resident SEC fan knows that.)

Vol Abroad said...

There is a town in Lawrence County called Revilo - which like Remlap should be read backwards...so they don't have a patent on it.

The Gu-Win and Guin split is odd. One wonders if there was some kind of family feud or pronunciation schism.

Anonymous said...

One of my favorites is a station where you change trains on the way to one of the Queen's country houses...Slough.

Tennesseans may pronounce it slew or sluff...but never like its actual pronunciation...slau.

genderist said...

Wow. And all this time I thought Loretto was pronounced L'rettah.

Vol Abroad said...

Genderist - I think you'll find that your pronunciation has been influenced by the sub-variant accent of Summertown.

Lynnster said...

There's also a small town in West Tennessee that the locals (including my mother, who grew up in the next town over) call "Rullaford". Even though it is spelled just like, oh, Rutherford County (which the same people say ruh-ther-ford"). Sigh.

St. Caffeine said...

Not that I'm taking up for Alabamians (even though I guess I am one now), but I would like to point out one thing abotu Gu-win. It is located between the towns of Guin and Winfield. See, it makes a little more sense now, huh?

A.C. McCloud said...

Your Brit friends might be amused to hear that west Tennesseans pronounce the town of Milan "MY lun". They call Maury county "Murray" county. Arkansans are just as bad--Blytheville is "Blie vul".

But it's not entirely a southern thing. Illinoians call Cairo "Karo" and Vienna "Vie (rhymes with aye) enna". Gotta love it.

BTW, nice color on the blog. A lot of pride in the SEC round here this past week!

Anonymous said...

According to an old wife who told a tale, Milan is pronounced as it is because the map maker asked a farmer he happend across who owned the land and the farmer responded, "It's my land".

A.C. McCloud said...

According to an old wife who told a tale, Milan is pronounced as it is because the map maker asked a farmer he happend across who owned the land and the farmer responded, "It's my land".

Sounds reasonable to me. BTW, Cairo, ILL is actually pronounced Karo by Yankees, and KAY ROW by rebs. Just to clarify..